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2 dead, 10 critical after Boeing 777 crashes at San Fran Airport (+pics)

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2 dead, 10 critical after Boeing 777 crashes at San Fran Airport (+pics)


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Updated 1:31pm --- A Boeing 777 crash landed at San Francisco airport this morning, killing at least two people, injuring 181 and forcing passengers to evacuate as flames tore through the plane.

Many injuries were minor, but passengers and possibly some crew were reportedly treated for burns and other injuries

10 people remain in hospital and their condition remains "critical".

A NZ Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) spokesman said no New Zealanders were on board.

It appears the plane crash landed early - hitting the jetty before the runway starts (in the harbour), snapping the tail off and causing the plane to lose control.

Eyewitnesses say the plane then lost control, crashing, then sliding to a stop near the start of the runway where it initially crashed. It then erupted into flames according to eyewitnesses.

An eyewitness on a plane that had just landed on a parallel runway said the tail hit the ground first, the plane appeared to bounce, then the tail and an engine came off, before the plane spun around and burst into flames from the centre.

Reuters says onboard the plane 141 were Chinese citizens, 77 South Koreans and 61 US citizens.

There are reports - still not confirmed - of 291 passengers on board and 16 crew members.

Early reports suggest the plane was too low - and looks as though it could have almost crashed short of the runway in the sea.

San Fran is the 10th busiest airport in the US and has the largest international terminal in the nation.
Image / David Eun, Twitter

As of 11:30am Sunday NZT two of the four runways at SFO were open.

WeatherWatch.co.nz says those flying from Auckland to San Fran should check with their airline for the latest travel details.

The plane that crashed was operated by Asiana Airlines from Seoul South Korea and crashed while landing in calm, sunny, weather.

Some passengers were in need of burn treatment reports local TV.

Some experts believe the aircraft was coming in too low or with too little power. Some suggest there was turbulence near the start of the runway too - another smaller aircraft that landed just seconds before the 777 crashed had suddenly veered left right on landing, according to a passenger, due to what she was "turbulence" - however she stressed the plane she was on was much smaller.

- Screengrabs via CNN, ABC and local TV
- WeatherWatch.co.nz with NZ Herald & FNC

Posted on July 7, 2013 at 8:58 AM


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Re: 2 dead, 10 critical after Boeing 777 crashes at San Fran Airport (+pics)

NTSB: Flight attendants ejected during crash

Two flight attendants in the back of Asiana Airlines Flight 214 survived despite being thrown onto the runway when the plane slammed into a seawall and lost its tail during a crash landing at San Francisco's airport, the head of the National Transportation Safety Board said.

Chairwoman Deborah Hersman also revealed that the pilots told investigators they were relying on automated cockpit equipment to control their speed during final approach, which prompts questions about whether a mistake was made in programming the "autothrottle" or if the equipment malfunctioned.

The plane crashed when it came in too low and slow for landing. Hersman said the pilot at the controls was only about halfway through his training on the Boeing 777 and was landing that type of aircraft at the San Francisco airport for the first time ever. And the co-pilot was on his first trip as a flight instructor.

The crash killed two people but remarkably 305 others survived, most with little or no physical injuries. A final determination on the cause of the crash is months away and Hersman cautioned against drawing any conclusions based on the information revealed so far.

Audio recordings show pilots tried to correct the plane's speed and elevation only until seconds before hitting the seawall at the end of the runway, a calamitous impact that sent the fuselage bouncing and skidding across the airfield.

Here is what is known:
Seven seconds before impact, someone in the cockpit asked for more speed after apparently noticing that the jet was flying far slower than its recommended landing speed. A few seconds later, the yoke began to vibrate violently, an automatic warning telling the pilot the plane is losing lift and in imminent danger of an aerodynamic stall. One and a half seconds before impact came a command to abort the landing.

The plane's airspeed has emerged as a key question mark in the investigation. All aircraft have minimum safe flying speeds that must be maintained or pilots risk a stall, which robs a plane of the lift it needs to stay airborne. Below those speeds, planes become unmanoeuvrable.

Because pilots, not the control tower, are responsible for the approach and landing, former NTSB Chairman James Hall said, the cockpit communications will be key to figuring out what went wrong.

"Good communication with the flight crew as well as the flight attendants is something I'm sure they're going to look at closely with this event," he said Tuesday. "Who was making decisions?"

Hall was on the transportation board when a Korean Airlines Boeing 747 crashed in Guam in 1997, an accident investigators blamed in part on an authoritarian cockpit culture that made newer pilots reluctant to challenge captains.

Since then, the industry has adopted broad training and requirements for crew resource management, a communications system or philosophy airline pilots are taught in part so that pilots who not at the controls feel free to voice any safety concerns or correct any unsafe behaviour, even if it means challenging a more senior pilot or saying something that might give offense.

If any of the Asiana pilots "saw something out of parameters for a safe landing," they were obligated to speak up, said Cass Howell, an associate dean at the Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, Fla.

"There are dozens and dozens of accidents that were preventable had someone been able to speak up when they should have, but they were reluctant to do so for any number of reasons, including looking stupid or offending the captain," said Howell, a former Marine Corps pilot.

There's been no indication, from verbal calls or mechanical issues, that an emergency was ever declared by pilots. Most airlines would require all four pilots to be present for the landing, the time when something is most likely to go wrong, experienced pilots said.

"If there are four pilots there, even if you are sitting on a jump seat, that's something you watch, the airspeed and the descent profile," said John Cox, a former US Airways pilot and former Air Line Pilots Association accident investigator.

Investigators want to nail down exactly what all four Asiana pilots were doing at all times.

"We're looking at what they were doing, and we want to understand why they were doing it," Hersman said Monday. "We want to understand what they knew and what they understood."

It's unlikely there was a lot of chatter as the plane came in. The Federal Aviation Administration's "sterile cockpit" rules require pilots to refrain from any unnecessary conversation while the plane is below 10,000 feet so that their attention is focused on taking off or landing. What little conversation takes places is supposed to be necessary to safely completing the task at hand.

Choi Jeong-ho, a senior official for South Korea's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, told reporters in a briefing Tuesday in South Korea that investigators from both countries questioned two of the four Asiana pilots, Lee Gang-guk and Lee Jeong-min, on Monday. They planned to question the other two pilots and air controllers Tuesday.

Choi said recorded conversation between the pilots and air controllers at the San Francisco airport would be investigated, too.

In addition, authorities were reviewing the initial rescue efforts after fire officials acknowledged that one of their trucks might have run over one of the two Chinese teenagers killed in the crash. The students, Wang Linjia and Ye Mengyuan, were part of a larger group headed for a Christian summer camp with dozens of classmates.

Asiana President Yoon Young-doo arrived in San Francisco from South Korea on Tuesday morning, fighting his way through a pack of journalists outside customs.

He said he will look at the efforts of airline employees to help injured passengers and their family members, visit with the NTSB and other organisations to apologize for the crash and try to meet injured passengers.
Yoon said he can't meet with the Asiana pilots because no outside contact with them is allowed until the investigation is completed.

More than 180 people aboard the plane went to hospitals with injuries. But remarkably, more than a third didn't even require hospitalisation.

The passengers included 141 Chinese, 77 South Koreans, 64 Americans, three Canadians, three Indians, one Japanese, one Vietnamese and one person from France.

South Korea officials said 39 people remained hospitalized in seven different hospitals in San Francisco.

The flight originated in Shanghai, China, and stopped over in Seoul, South Korea, before making the nearly 11-hour trip to San Francisco.

- AP
Link to article: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10...

Posted on July 11, 2013 at 8:59 AM


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Re: 2 dead, 10 critical after Boeing 777 crashes at San Fran Airport (+pics)

Third fatality in San Francisco plane crash

A third passenger from the Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 that crashed on landing at San Francisco International Airport last weekend has died of her injuries, a local hospital said Friday.

"A child who was injured in the Asiana Airlines accident died this morning. The patient was a girl who had been in critical condition," San Francisco General Hospital said in a statement.

Two other girls, both teenagers from China, died and 182 other people were injured when the plane clipped a seawall short of the runway, breaking of the tail of the aircraft, skidding out of control and catching fire.

One of the first two fatalities was run over by a fire truck working to douse the flames in the plane, police confirmed Friday. It was unclear whether or not she was already dead when the truck ran her over.

Asiana's flight 214, from Shanghai, with a stop in Seoul, had 307 people on board, including 16 crew members. Some 123 escaped unharmed.

According to preliminary findings from the US transport safety agency's investigation, the plane crashed because it was flying too low and too slowly as it approached the runway.

It has emerged that the otherwise experienced pilot of the plane, 46-year-old Lee Kang-Kuk, was undergoing his first major training on the Boeing 777, and it was his co-pilot's first time working as instructor.

The National Transportation Safety Board has said analysis of cockpit voice recorders showed the pilots made no mention of the too-slow speed during the plane's doomed approach until it was 100 feet from the ground.

- Image / Burnt out remains of the crashed Asiana 777, photo courtesy NTSB

- nzherald.co.nz

Link to article: http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/content/third-fatality-san-francisco-...

Posted on July 13, 2013 at 9:01 AM